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	<description>It's all about Mohd Rafi</description>
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		<title>By: Joy Oravan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy Oravan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 13:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mohd Rafi is even today unparallel. He was versetile. He indeed is a  saint whatever his name is. Koshore kumar is only 70% of Rafi. With Kishore from 70s Indian music lost the indianess and the divine.

I request the Indian Govt. to honour Mohmmed Rai with Bharat Ratna posthumously. It will give better consolation to his hurt soul. Rafi is the right person to be honoured with Baratratna, because he was a real barat Ratna. Rafi is much much better singer than Lata, Asha, Kishore or yesudas.

God bless Rafi
Joy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mohd Rafi is even today unparallel. He was versetile. He indeed is a  saint whatever his name is. Koshore kumar is only 70% of Rafi. With Kishore from 70s Indian music lost the indianess and the divine.</p>
<p>I request the Indian Govt. to honour Mohmmed Rai with Bharat Ratna posthumously. It will give better consolation to his hurt soul. Rafi is the right person to be honoured with Baratratna, because he was a real barat Ratna. Rafi is much much better singer than Lata, Asha, Kishore or yesudas.</p>
<p>God bless Rafi<br />
Joy</p>
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		<title>By: monu</title>
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		<dc:creator>monu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 10:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please dont discuss abi\out that ass rd burman....and that tail kk.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................rafi shab truly said tum mujhe yun bhoola na paoege....he is the best,better than the rst............................................................................................................................................................kishore kumar is not a great singer .hmmm let  me rate him and rafi sahab

voice quality      kk       rafi sahb
                        10             99
melody              4.5            99.5
overall               0                1000000000000000001




so what if   kk       was untrained ........................even iam untrained ..dont tell me if i start singing u ll like me more than  rafi sahab..just because i am a untrained singer...ppl face the reality ....mohdrafi saab is the best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please dont discuss abi\out that ass rd burman&#8230;.and that tail kk&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..rafi shab truly said tum mujhe yun bhoola na paoege&#8230;.he is the best,better than the rst&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;kishore kumar is not a great singer .hmmm let  me rate him and rafi sahab</p>
<p>voice quality      kk       rafi sahb<br />
                        10             99<br />
melody              4.5            99.5<br />
overall               0                1000000000000000001</p>
<p>so what if   kk       was untrained &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;even iam untrained ..dont tell me if i start singing u ll like me more than  rafi sahab..just because i am a untrained singer&#8230;ppl face the reality &#8230;.mohdrafi saab is the best</p>
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		<title>By: H.V.GURU MURTHY</title>
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		<dc:creator>H.V.GURU MURTHY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 04:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The songs of 50s had great lyrics, superb singers and MDs. Came sixties, deterioration started, and in 70s, lyrics were written as if they are writing some prose (Accha to hum chalte hai, phir kab miloge). Less said the better about 80s. All the great singers like Rafi, Talat, Hemant, Mukesh, Geetha Dutt, even Kishore in the mid-eighties had gone. Other good singers and MDs like Mahendra Kapoor, Suman Kalyanpur, Naushad, O.P. Nayyar, were ignored. Lyrics became awful. I think if some body asks me to name five good songs of eighties, I would struggle as I hardly remeber any good songs of that period. On the otherhand, even if I am asked to select 100 good songs of earlier decades, I would again struggle as I will not be able to restrict good songs to just 100 in those periods. Well, we were lucky that our generation enjoyed good Hindi film music during the sixties and to certain extent in seventies, I just pity that the present generation has to be satisfied with the remakes which are no where near the Originals. Another interesting fact, recently three movies were released based on Shahid Bhagat Singh. How many of their songs are remebered? But the songs of old Shahid of Manoj Kumar are still popular. I understand the makers of MK's Shahid released the casettes at the same time as the new Shahids, but only the old Shahid songs made brisk business. Can any body now tune in or sing songs like Sarfaroshi Ki Tamanna, Mera Rangde Basanti, Lut Gaya Maal, Ae Watan Ae Watan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The songs of 50s had great lyrics, superb singers and MDs. Came sixties, deterioration started, and in 70s, lyrics were written as if they are writing some prose (Accha to hum chalte hai, phir kab miloge). Less said the better about 80s. All the great singers like Rafi, Talat, Hemant, Mukesh, Geetha Dutt, even Kishore in the mid-eighties had gone. Other good singers and MDs like Mahendra Kapoor, Suman Kalyanpur, Naushad, O.P. Nayyar, were ignored. Lyrics became awful. I think if some body asks me to name five good songs of eighties, I would struggle as I hardly remeber any good songs of that period. On the otherhand, even if I am asked to select 100 good songs of earlier decades, I would again struggle as I will not be able to restrict good songs to just 100 in those periods. Well, we were lucky that our generation enjoyed good Hindi film music during the sixties and to certain extent in seventies, I just pity that the present generation has to be satisfied with the remakes which are no where near the Originals. Another interesting fact, recently three movies were released based on Shahid Bhagat Singh. How many of their songs are remebered? But the songs of old Shahid of Manoj Kumar are still popular. I understand the makers of MK&#8217;s Shahid released the casettes at the same time as the new Shahids, but only the old Shahid songs made brisk business. Can any body now tune in or sing songs like Sarfaroshi Ki Tamanna, Mera Rangde Basanti, Lut Gaya Maal, Ae Watan Ae Watan.</p>
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		<title>By: monu</title>
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		<dc:creator>monu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in simple words ....Rd was a chakka and kk was hijda ..............................................................rafisahab is , was and will remain the best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in simple words &#8230;.Rd was a chakka and kk was hijda &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..rafisahab is , was and will remain the best</p>
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		<title>By: Anmol Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anmol Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Venkat,

Perhaps Talat Mehmood was very popular among the Bangla film makers as Tapan Kumar. He sang in the name of Tapan Kumar in many Bangla films. 

The song 'Jalti Hai Jees Ke Leeye' is one best works of Talat. Possibly the output could have been far superior and refined if Rafi Saab could have delivered the same song, but Talat was no less.

Probably Madan Mohan make one the best use of Talat Mehmood. He fought for Talat with the film maker to delivery 'Fir Wohi Sham' in Jahan Araa who wanted Rafi to sing the song. Another master performance by Talat Mehmood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Venkat,</p>
<p>Perhaps Talat Mehmood was very popular among the Bangla film makers as Tapan Kumar. He sang in the name of Tapan Kumar in many Bangla films. </p>
<p>The song &#8216;Jalti Hai Jees Ke Leeye&#8217; is one best works of Talat. Possibly the output could have been far superior and refined if Rafi Saab could have delivered the same song, but Talat was no less.</p>
<p>Probably Madan Mohan make one the best use of Talat Mehmood. He fought for Talat with the film maker to delivery &#8216;Fir Wohi Sham&#8217; in Jahan Araa who wanted Rafi to sing the song. Another master performance by Talat Mehmood.</p>
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		<title>By: altaf hussain</title>
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		<dc:creator>altaf hussain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MUHAMMAD RAFI - LIVE IN CONCERT [DVD]


PLEASE NOTE: THAT THE ORIGINAL FOOTAGE HAS BEEN PASSED ONTO A PROFESSIONAL DVD TRANSFER SERVICE FOR ALL LOYAL FANS OF THE MASTER


[RESPONSE GIVEN TO FAIZAL WHO SUGGESTED THE ABOVE SERVICE]
First of all thanks a million for getting back to me with your stupendous comments concerning the video footage of the Master, which I have followed and carried out by sending off the original vhs to a proper professional service centre. I'm hoping that they will give me a fast response relating to the quality of the contents on the cassette, as it's already been through many battles over the last 25 years or so.

The only reason that I have taken these steps is that your comments hit me right on the nail like a hammer, after all since I am advertising the dvd for sale... so let's go further by improving and enhancing the picture and sound quality. Could you imagine me offering it to anyone and then having to receive complaints over a botched up cowboy job, and after all it will save me from all those criticisms in the future.

The actual concert footage is over 2 hours

It kicks off with 'Bari Door Se Aaye Hain' and ends with 'Aaja Aaja Main Hoon Piyar Tera'

Muhammad Rafi is wearing a white suit on stage

I leave you now with peace and prosperity for the future!

KHUDA HAFIZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MUHAMMAD RAFI - LIVE IN CONCERT [DVD]</p>
<p>PLEASE NOTE: THAT THE ORIGINAL FOOTAGE HAS BEEN PASSED ONTO A PROFESSIONAL DVD TRANSFER SERVICE FOR ALL LOYAL FANS OF THE MASTER</p>
<p>[RESPONSE GIVEN TO FAIZAL WHO SUGGESTED THE ABOVE SERVICE]<br />
First of all thanks a million for getting back to me with your stupendous comments concerning the video footage of the Master, which I have followed and carried out by sending off the original vhs to a proper professional service centre. I&#8217;m hoping that they will give me a fast response relating to the quality of the contents on the cassette, as it&#8217;s already been through many battles over the last 25 years or so.</p>
<p>The only reason that I have taken these steps is that your comments hit me right on the nail like a hammer, after all since I am advertising the dvd for sale&#8230; so let&#8217;s go further by improving and enhancing the picture and sound quality. Could you imagine me offering it to anyone and then having to receive complaints over a botched up cowboy job, and after all it will save me from all those criticisms in the future.</p>
<p>The actual concert footage is over 2 hours</p>
<p>It kicks off with &#8216;Bari Door Se Aaye Hain&#8217; and ends with &#8216;Aaja Aaja Main Hoon Piyar Tera&#8217;</p>
<p>Muhammad Rafi is wearing a white suit on stage</p>
<p>I leave you now with peace and prosperity for the future!</p>
<p>KHUDA HAFIZ</p>
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		<title>By: venkat_brahma</title>
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		<dc:creator>venkat_brahma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friends,

RDB was overrated? Of course, he was!

RDB, unlike all the greats before him including his great father, did not worship Rafi Saab! And, believe me, friends, all the great MDs of 50's and 60's did not do anything but worship Rafi Saab.

SDB was composing music for Sujata and Bimal Roy, like many other Bengalis (pardon me!), was a little averse to Rafi Saab and wanted SDB to try Talat Mehmood. SDB was reluctant and argued with Bimal Roy for Rafi Saab. Finally, even when Talat was called in, SDB would keep on telling Talat things like "Yeh Badhiya Tune Hai, Is ko Kharab Nahi karega Naa?"

I am a fan of Talat too and rate him also as a very good singer! But, what I am trying to get at is that SDB did not have confidence even in such a good singer, in comparision with the all-time-great Rafi Saab! It is a different issue that Sujata's songs came out nicely even with Talat.

RDB, like his favorite singer, had in any case shone only during the non-glorious era of HFM, post 1970.

Venkat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friends,</p>
<p>RDB was overrated? Of course, he was!</p>
<p>RDB, unlike all the greats before him including his great father, did not worship Rafi Saab! And, believe me, friends, all the great MDs of 50&#8217;s and 60&#8217;s did not do anything but worship Rafi Saab.</p>
<p>SDB was composing music for Sujata and Bimal Roy, like many other Bengalis (pardon me!), was a little averse to Rafi Saab and wanted SDB to try Talat Mehmood. SDB was reluctant and argued with Bimal Roy for Rafi Saab. Finally, even when Talat was called in, SDB would keep on telling Talat things like &#8220;Yeh Badhiya Tune Hai, Is ko Kharab Nahi karega Naa?&#8221;</p>
<p>I am a fan of Talat too and rate him also as a very good singer! But, what I am trying to get at is that SDB did not have confidence even in such a good singer, in comparision with the all-time-great Rafi Saab! It is a different issue that Sujata&#8217;s songs came out nicely even with Talat.</p>
<p>RDB, like his favorite singer, had in any case shone only during the non-glorious era of HFM, post 1970.</p>
<p>Venkat</p>
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		<title>By: U0012087</title>
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		<dc:creator>U0012087</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 08:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the information Altaf saab

Khalid Rashid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information Altaf saab</p>
<p>Khalid Rashid</p>
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		<title>By: altaf hussain</title>
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		<dc:creator>altaf hussain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MUHAMMAD RAFI – LIVE IN CONCERT

Muhammad Rafi was an outstanding singer and one of the most influential playback singers that our part of the world has ever produced, a voice which captured millions of  heart’s and whose songs touched all generations.

This is the second time that I am going to comment about the master, who I had the privilege as a child to watch on stage at Bradford’s St George’s Hall, West Yorkshire [UK]. I actually grew up listening to his melodious voice as it soared all around me, whether I was watching a movie or listening to the radio set.

There came a time in my life when I was just ten years old, that I got the chance of watching Muhammad Rafi [The Legend] live on stage and in person performing live to a captivated audience. I had to be forced to go by one of  my family friends who had bought 2 tickets for us both, so he literally had to twist my arm into going with him.

However whilst attending the gig I was totally baffled at what I had just experienced on stage,  he was right ahead of me… yes Muhammad Rafi Sahab singing live. He kicked off the show with ‘Bari Door Se Aaye Hain’, followed by many of his recent hits and past famous songs such as ‘Hum Bekhudi Main Sanam’, ‘Parda Hai Parda’, ‘Hum To Chale Pardes’, ‘Kiya Hua Tera Vaada’, ‘Sar Par Topi Lal Rumal’, ‘O Duniya Ke Rakhwale’, ‘Punjabi track’, and some other hits.

It’s been a long time now and for a ten year old it’s very hard to remember, but I never ever forgot that memorable night as some of it’s contents were captured onto one of those old movie cameras. Which were later distributed onto vhs tapes in the 80’s and sold for ridiculous high prices to anyone interested in buying a copy.

My dear father bought himself a copy of that recording which I’ve watched innumerable times over the last 25 years or so, but my vhs tape is failing me now in 2007. So I am going to have it’s contents transferred onto dvd format, once I manage to grab myself a good machine… it’s been over 2 months now since my last post in December 2006, but would you believe it – I’m still looking for one.

Once it’s been transferred entirely all onto dvd quality format, I can then distribute it by offering it to any buyers who will be interested in buying themselves a rare recording of the legendary Muhammad Rafi live in concert.  Before all that I would like to put some clips on you tube first, just to give you a small little taste of what’s to come in the near future.

You may email me whenever you have the time

altaf786hussain@hotmail.co.uk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MUHAMMAD RAFI – LIVE IN CONCERT</p>
<p>Muhammad Rafi was an outstanding singer and one of the most influential playback singers that our part of the world has ever produced, a voice which captured millions of  heart’s and whose songs touched all generations.</p>
<p>This is the second time that I am going to comment about the master, who I had the privilege as a child to watch on stage at Bradford’s St George’s Hall, West Yorkshire [UK]. I actually grew up listening to his melodious voice as it soared all around me, whether I was watching a movie or listening to the radio set.</p>
<p>There came a time in my life when I was just ten years old, that I got the chance of watching Muhammad Rafi [The Legend] live on stage and in person performing live to a captivated audience. I had to be forced to go by one of  my family friends who had bought 2 tickets for us both, so he literally had to twist my arm into going with him.</p>
<p>However whilst attending the gig I was totally baffled at what I had just experienced on stage,  he was right ahead of me… yes Muhammad Rafi Sahab singing live. He kicked off the show with ‘Bari Door Se Aaye Hain’, followed by many of his recent hits and past famous songs such as ‘Hum Bekhudi Main Sanam’, ‘Parda Hai Parda’, ‘Hum To Chale Pardes’, ‘Kiya Hua Tera Vaada’, ‘Sar Par Topi Lal Rumal’, ‘O Duniya Ke Rakhwale’, ‘Punjabi track’, and some other hits.</p>
<p>It’s been a long time now and for a ten year old it’s very hard to remember, but I never ever forgot that memorable night as some of it’s contents were captured onto one of those old movie cameras. Which were later distributed onto vhs tapes in the 80’s and sold for ridiculous high prices to anyone interested in buying a copy.</p>
<p>My dear father bought himself a copy of that recording which I’ve watched innumerable times over the last 25 years or so, but my vhs tape is failing me now in 2007. So I am going to have it’s contents transferred onto dvd format, once I manage to grab myself a good machine… it’s been over 2 months now since my last post in December 2006, but would you believe it – I’m still looking for one.</p>
<p>Once it’s been transferred entirely all onto dvd quality format, I can then distribute it by offering it to any buyers who will be interested in buying themselves a rare recording of the legendary Muhammad Rafi live in concert.  Before all that I would like to put some clips on you tube first, just to give you a small little taste of what’s to come in the near future.</p>
<p>You may email me whenever you have the time</p>
<p><a href="mailto:altaf786hussain@hotmail.co.uk">altaf786hussain@hotmail.co.uk</a></p>
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		<title>By: unknow1</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sir Anmol Singh,
                        I agree with u that RD is not the best composer for Kishore. As I think RD was better for Mohd Rafi than KK,If u go for RD films in late 70's u will see some great songs singed by mohd rafi for RD.
Sir P. Haldar,
                    I agree with that  Mohd Rafi true success rested on five pillars: Naushad, SD, SJ, OP and Madan Mohan BUT if u take Mohd Rafi voice out from there(greatest composer)music they have nothing in there music.Who want listen the great Naushand without Mohd Rafi and why Naushand use someone else if he has a great human and singer in same time and same with other composers.
some time I think Mohd Rafi was human as we and there can be singer like Mohd Rafi and maybe be better than Mohd rafi but when i listen to Mohd Rafi I change my mind and say noway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir Anmol Singh,<br />
                        I agree with u that RD is not the best composer for Kishore. As I think RD was better for Mohd Rafi than KK,If u go for RD films in late 70&#8217;s u will see some great songs singed by mohd rafi for RD.<br />
Sir P. Haldar,<br />
                    I agree with that  Mohd Rafi true success rested on five pillars: Naushad, SD, SJ, OP and Madan Mohan BUT if u take Mohd Rafi voice out from there(greatest composer)music they have nothing in there music.Who want listen the great Naushand without Mohd Rafi and why Naushand use someone else if he has a great human and singer in same time and same with other composers.<br />
some time I think Mohd Rafi was human as we and there can be singer like Mohd Rafi and maybe be better than Mohd rafi but when i listen to Mohd Rafi I change my mind and say noway.</p>
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