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	<title>Comments on: Some Rare Diamonds of Rafi Saab - 5</title>
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		<title>by: Meenu</title>
		<link>http://www.mohdrafi.com/meri-awaaz-suno/some-rare-diamonds-of-rafi-saab-5.html#comment-27709</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi venkatadriji ,

You may be correct, there is no second openion about Rafi sahab as a good human being. His inoscent smile tells everything.  But still I do not belive that Lata was uncomfortable with Rafi sahab. I have seen their photographs together during recording. They are rehersing, taking tea and laughing together; that's why their duets are most beautiful duets compaired to other pairs.
                    My question is why should we bother about her behaviour ? we do not have any rite to rate her as a human being. When we identify someone's drawback we should remember that those drawbacks are within us too! 
                    That's why I say , those who write an article on some artist ; mention only about his contribution rather than dragging some other artist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi venkatadriji ,</p>
<p>You may be correct, there is no second openion about Rafi sahab as a good human being. His inoscent smile tells everything.  But still I do not belive that Lata was uncomfortable with Rafi sahab. I have seen their photographs together during recording. They are rehersing, taking tea and laughing together; that&#8217;s why their duets are most beautiful duets compaired to other pairs.<br />
                    My question is why should we bother about her behaviour ? we do not have any rite to rate her as a human being. When we identify someone&#8217;s drawback we should remember that those drawbacks are within us too!<br />
                    That&#8217;s why I say , those who write an article on some artist ; mention only about his contribution rather than dragging some other artist.
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		<title>by: b.venkatadri</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Meenu Ji,

I am the author of this article responding. I do have high respect for Lataji as a very great and divine singer (though I find Asha Ji never second to Lataji)!

In fact, I heartily enjoy the rarest of Lataji's rare songs too. Only this morning, I was playing again and again this very rare and beautiful Lata solo from Film:Sardar(1955)--MD:Sursagar Jagmohan--"Pyaar Ki Yeh Talkhiyan, Jo Na Kehe Sakoo, To Main Kya karoon"!

But, I also do believe that Lataji was never comfortable with this greatest phenomenon called Mohammed Rafi. This was indeed at the root of her blatantly abnormal behaviour in relation to Rafi Saab.

You said that no one ever says one wrong word about Lata Ji in Radio/TV interviews. But, knowing Lata Ji and her continuing clout in the Industry, is it surprising? 

But, while no one says a bad word about her, equally, no one ever praises her as a person, definitely not whole-heartedly! Compare this with what people say on TV/Radio about Rafi Saab 30 years after his death, when he can no longer listen to any of those comments! People so passionately praise Rafi Saab's virtues, his greatness not only as a singer but as a human being.

Regards,

Venkat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meenu Ji,</p>
<p>I am the author of this article responding. I do have high respect for Lataji as a very great and divine singer (though I find Asha Ji never second to Lataji)!</p>
<p>In fact, I heartily enjoy the rarest of Lataji&#8217;s rare songs too. Only this morning, I was playing again and again this very rare and beautiful Lata solo from Film:Sardar(1955)&#8211;MD:Sursagar Jagmohan&#8211;&#8221;Pyaar Ki Yeh Talkhiyan, Jo Na Kehe Sakoo, To Main Kya karoon&#8221;!</p>
<p>But, I also do believe that Lataji was never comfortable with this greatest phenomenon called Mohammed Rafi. This was indeed at the root of her blatantly abnormal behaviour in relation to Rafi Saab.</p>
<p>You said that no one ever says one wrong word about Lata Ji in Radio/TV interviews. But, knowing Lata Ji and her continuing clout in the Industry, is it surprising? </p>
<p>But, while no one says a bad word about her, equally, no one ever praises her as a person, definitely not whole-heartedly! Compare this with what people say on TV/Radio about Rafi Saab 30 years after his death, when he can no longer listen to any of those comments! People so passionately praise Rafi Saab&#8217;s virtues, his greatness not only as a singer but as a human being.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Venkat
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		<title>by: Binu Nair</title>
		<link>http://www.mohdrafi.com/meri-awaaz-suno/some-rare-diamonds-of-rafi-saab-5.html#comment-26949</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Meenu ji : post 37.....

u must know that the senior-most singer had booked the recording studios continuously for three years and every one was at her mercy for a recording. this fact u many never be able to - refute. the younger sister gave a statement saying : when your own family person keeps u at home, why talk about others; this was some time in 1964.

we all do mistakes; lata too did it by promoting suman for a song (this is not independently proved) up till now.

but read gopal sharmas book, he has unfolded incidents as it happened in the film music industry. i will send a copy to u. mr.sharma is the ex radio jockey of ceylon radio who used to play at 7.57 a.m. the k.l.saighal song by which people used to adjust their watch - everyday.

some facts can be distorted but 'truth' can never be buried. however, i admire your courage in defending the indefensible.

binu nair. mumbai.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meenu ji : post 37&#8230;..</p>
<p>u must know that the senior-most singer had booked the recording studios continuously for three years and every one was at her mercy for a recording. this fact u many never be able to - refute. the younger sister gave a statement saying : when your own family person keeps u at home, why talk about others; this was some time in 1964.</p>
<p>we all do mistakes; lata too did it by promoting suman for a song (this is not independently proved) up till now.</p>
<p>but read gopal sharmas book, he has unfolded incidents as it happened in the film music industry. i will send a copy to u. mr.sharma is the ex radio jockey of ceylon radio who used to play at 7.57 a.m. the k.l.saighal song by which people used to adjust their watch - everyday.</p>
<p>some facts can be distorted but &#8216;truth&#8217; can never be buried. however, i admire your courage in defending the indefensible.</p>
<p>binu nair. mumbai.
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		<title>by: Meenu</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Rajnath ,

your comment -
For male singing its very often we can find many singers used by various md for various artists. but in female singing its vary rare due to only lata….

my comment -
I can list many female Contemporary singers of LATA
Start from Suman Kalyanpur
                Shama chittaar (suman's yourger sister  Jeevan chalne ka naam fame film shor)
                Sudha Malhotra (Sudha Morwani same)
                Meenu puroshottam
                Sharda
                Usha trimoti
                Krishna kalle
                Gita dutta
                samshaad begum
                Mubarak begum
                Surayya
                Sulaxana pandit
                Hemlata
                Vani jairam
                Madubala zaveri
                S. Janki
                P. Susheela
                Kanchan
                Runa laila
                salma agha
                pushpa pagdhare
                Hemanti sukhla  and  many more .......
            Late 80's  when Lata was singing with force
                   Alka
                   Anuradha
                   Alisha
                   Purnima
                   Kavita
                   Sadhan sargam
                   Arti mukharjee

Your comment -
Sometimes lata gave her voice to two or more heroine in one movie, rafi Sahab &#38; kishore doesn’t have this type of mentality.

My comment - It was Music directors and Producer's choice not Lata's.
In old movies Rafi sahab used to give his voice to hero as well as commedian line Jony walker , he as given his voice to Kishore kumar too. What will you say about this ?

Your comments-
Many stories will comes out after her death…..until….we have to wait. 

My comments -
I feel pity for your low mentality. People bless her to live long life and you are waiting for her death. Very sad.  
Stories are comming nowitself... we can read in various forums , articles but those are masala added stories.
That will not make any difference to she as well as her fans. Her fans are not only common man but great singers of today's generation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rajnath ,</p>
<p>your comment -<br />
For male singing its very often we can find many singers used by various md for various artists. but in female singing its vary rare due to only lata….</p>
<p>my comment -<br />
I can list many female Contemporary singers of LATA<br />
Start from Suman Kalyanpur<br />
                Shama chittaar (suman&#8217;s yourger sister  Jeevan chalne ka naam fame film shor)<br />
                Sudha Malhotra (Sudha Morwani same)<br />
                Meenu puroshottam<br />
                Sharda<br />
                Usha trimoti<br />
                Krishna kalle<br />
                Gita dutta<br />
                samshaad begum<br />
                Mubarak begum<br />
                Surayya<br />
                Sulaxana pandit<br />
                Hemlata<br />
                Vani jairam<br />
                Madubala zaveri<br />
                S. Janki<br />
                P. Susheela<br />
                Kanchan<br />
                Runa laila<br />
                salma agha<br />
                pushpa pagdhare<br />
                Hemanti sukhla  and  many more &#8230;&#8230;.<br />
            Late 80&#8217;s  when Lata was singing with force<br />
                   Alka<br />
                   Anuradha<br />
                   Alisha<br />
                   Purnima<br />
                   Kavita<br />
                   Sadhan sargam<br />
                   Arti mukharjee</p>
<p>Your comment -<br />
Sometimes lata gave her voice to two or more heroine in one movie, rafi Sahab &amp; kishore doesn’t have this type of mentality.</p>
<p>My comment - It was Music directors and Producer&#8217;s choice not Lata&#8217;s.<br />
In old movies Rafi sahab used to give his voice to hero as well as commedian line Jony walker , he as given his voice to Kishore kumar too. What will you say about this ?</p>
<p>Your comments-<br />
Many stories will comes out after her death…..until….we have to wait. </p>
<p>My comments -<br />
I feel pity for your low mentality. People bless her to live long life and you are waiting for her death. Very sad.<br />
Stories are comming nowitself&#8230; we can read in various forums , articles but those are masala added stories.<br />
That will not make any difference to she as well as her fans. Her fans are not only common man but great singers of today&#8217;s generation.
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		<title>by: Meenu</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Friends ,

Music directors choosed Suman over Lata ; it was sheer compramise. If Milk is not available then one has to adjust with butter milk. But Music directores gave solo songs in same film (in which Rafi sahab and Suman sung duet ) to only Lata. 
Aji rooth kar aba kaha ja yea ga... (shankar jaikisen ) only Lata can do justice to this kind of songs not Suman. Suman's voice is soft and melodious but monotonus. I never heard 'Dil wil pyar wyar..' or 'Aa jaane ja..' kind songs from Suman. She was like Mukesh, in every song she sounds similar.
She sound similar to Lata in only old songs later her voice changed.
Those who are regular listerners can easily make the difference in Lata and suman's voice. Lata was having challange from only her sister Asha. 
Listen - Allah karam karna.. from DADA,
Naa jane kaise  from Badlate  rishte
                         Main point -  There was a downfall in every singer;s life but it never happend with LATA. She was constantly in demand. Today's new generation MDs also wants to work with her but due her age problem it is not possible. 
                 So any no of articles written to degrade LATA will not help !
Whatever she has achived will  remain with her and nobody can snatch from her.  This kind of articles or forums probably poison people's mind to some extent but whenever they will listen LATA's spritiual voice they all will bow their head with respect !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Friends ,</p>
<p>Music directors choosed Suman over Lata ; it was sheer compramise. If Milk is not available then one has to adjust with butter milk. But Music directores gave solo songs in same film (in which Rafi sahab and Suman sung duet ) to only Lata.<br />
Aji rooth kar aba kaha ja yea ga&#8230; (shankar jaikisen ) only Lata can do justice to this kind of songs not Suman. Suman&#8217;s voice is soft and melodious but monotonus. I never heard &#8216;Dil wil pyar wyar..&#8217; or &#8216;Aa jaane ja..&#8217; kind songs from Suman. She was like Mukesh, in every song she sounds similar.<br />
She sound similar to Lata in only old songs later her voice changed.<br />
Those who are regular listerners can easily make the difference in Lata and suman&#8217;s voice. Lata was having challange from only her sister Asha.<br />
Listen - Allah karam karna.. from DADA,<br />
Naa jane kaise  from Badlate  rishte<br />
                         Main point -  There was a downfall in every singer;s life but it never happend with LATA. She was constantly in demand. Today&#8217;s new generation MDs also wants to work with her but due her age problem it is not possible.<br />
                 So any no of articles written to degrade LATA will not help !<br />
Whatever she has achived will  remain with her and nobody can snatch from her.  This kind of articles or forums probably poison people&#8217;s mind to some extent but whenever they will listen LATA&#8217;s spritiual voice they all will bow their head with respect !!!
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		<title>by: Meenu</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Dear Binus2000,

great personalities should be
the “least” selfish people as they are ” microspically judged”.

Yes that's why Lata gave Suman her carrier's first song which she rehersed with Mohmad shafi. She recomended Suman's name for many songs. Suman was the regular vistor to Lata's house.

She constructd the well equiped hospital in pune not for personal benifit.
After recording she used to ask the doorekeepr that how he felt about the song ? There was never a tense atomsphere as she herself was a great mimic with good sense of humer. Rafisahab used to say 'Aaj bara brikaa mukabla hai ' whenever there was duet with Lata.
When lata went to perform in Albert hall, she recognized one of the chorus singer (who sung in chorus and she met lata  after 30 years gap ) , her enimies try to  spoil her image saying she is  arrogant. 

One more thing I observed , whenever the old singers they give interview either on radio or on TV they never say single word against LATA, either they do not have courge or all the alligations are baseless.

People  did't even spare GOD , Lata afterall is a human being.
One thing I want to tell everyone. Love LATA for her work , because she did full justice to her work. Her work is only reaching to the common man and not her behaviour.  If ever she misbeheaved with someone then we need to check the behaviour of that person too !
Hum ye  nahi bol sakte kee waha dudh ka dhula tha !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Binus2000,</p>
<p>great personalities should be<br />
the “least” selfish people as they are ” microspically judged”.</p>
<p>Yes that&#8217;s why Lata gave Suman her carrier&#8217;s first song which she rehersed with Mohmad shafi. She recomended Suman&#8217;s name for many songs. Suman was the regular vistor to Lata&#8217;s house.</p>
<p>She constructd the well equiped hospital in pune not for personal benifit.<br />
After recording she used to ask the doorekeepr that how he felt about the song ? There was never a tense atomsphere as she herself was a great mimic with good sense of humer. Rafisahab used to say &#8216;Aaj bara brikaa mukabla hai &#8216; whenever there was duet with Lata.<br />
When lata went to perform in Albert hall, she recognized one of the chorus singer (who sung in chorus and she met lata  after 30 years gap ) , her enimies try to  spoil her image saying she is  arrogant. </p>
<p>One more thing I observed , whenever the old singers they give interview either on radio or on TV they never say single word against LATA, either they do not have courge or all the alligations are baseless.</p>
<p>People  did&#8217;t even spare GOD , Lata afterall is a human being.<br />
One thing I want to tell everyone. Love LATA for her work , because she did full justice to her work. Her work is only reaching to the common man and not her behaviour.  If ever she misbeheaved with someone then we need to check the behaviour of that person too !<br />
Hum ye  nahi bol sakte kee waha dudh ka dhula tha !
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		<title>by: binus2000</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 04:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Art of living - course of sri ravi shankar should have been done by
some singers it's felt. truth always hurts and maa saraswathi must
have all the great "qualities" of Maa and saraswathi - which sadly
is not the case.
i say this as reports emanating from the recording studios and personal
anecdotes say things which i cannot  "report" here.

compare this with rafi ji : who learnt "the art of living" right from the
age of six from a wandering baba . rafi ji imbibed these in to his
daily life and immortalised himself - during his lifetime, itself.

very aptly the times of india group and the hindustan times voted
rafi - ji as one among the 50 top indian movers and shakers list;
last august 15 independence day issue.

truth can be hurting meenu ji and great personalities should be
the "least" selfish people as they are  " microspically judged".

binu nair.. rafi foundation....mumbai,  : binus2000@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art of living - course of sri ravi shankar should have been done by<br />
some singers it&#8217;s felt. truth always hurts and maa saraswathi must<br />
have all the great &#8220;qualities&#8221; of Maa and saraswathi - which sadly<br />
is not the case.<br />
i say this as reports emanating from the recording studios and personal<br />
anecdotes say things which i cannot  &#8220;report&#8221; here.</p>
<p>compare this with rafi ji : who learnt &#8220;the art of living&#8221; right from the<br />
age of six from a wandering baba . rafi ji imbibed these in to his<br />
daily life and immortalised himself - during his lifetime, itself.</p>
<p>very aptly the times of india group and the hindustan times voted<br />
rafi - ji as one among the 50 top indian movers and shakers list;<br />
last august 15 independence day issue.</p>
<p>truth can be hurting meenu ji and great personalities should be<br />
the &#8220;least&#8221; selfish people as they are  &#8221; microspically judged&#8221;.</p>
<p>binu nair.. rafi foundation&#8230;.mumbai,  : <a href="mailto:binus2000@hotmail.com">binus2000@hotmail.com</a>
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		<title>by: Manish Kumar</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Meenu ji,

While I don't condone unnecessary Lata bashing (as is often the case) - there are times when we must speak the truth and not sweep everything under the rug for the sake of political correctness / image. At such times the truth isn't always pleasant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meenu ji,</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t condone unnecessary Lata bashing (as is often the case) - there are times when we must speak the truth and not sweep everything under the rug for the sake of political correctness / image. At such times the truth isn&#8217;t always pleasant.
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		<title>by: Meenu</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 10:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Aseerji ,

I visited your website about Rafi-sahab. It would have been really good to read about the the great Rafi Sahab ; if you would have only mentioned about his contribution in music, how good human being he was etc. but you constantly did mud-slinging on Lata to prove his greatness. In fact ,many visitors in that site are anti-lata. Whatever Narayanji is written is wrong but you too are equally sick !!
Who are you to write ill about Maa Sarswati - Lata ?  How can you compare male voice with female ?
The fact she left all her  Contemporary singers far behind. Success creates more enimies than friends.
 Don't foeget out of hundred if there are 5 abusers then 95 are supporters of LATA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aseerji ,</p>
<p>I visited your website about Rafi-sahab. It would have been really good to read about the the great Rafi Sahab ; if you would have only mentioned about his contribution in music, how good human being he was etc. but you constantly did mud-slinging on Lata to prove his greatness. In fact ,many visitors in that site are anti-lata. Whatever Narayanji is written is wrong but you too are equally sick !!<br />
Who are you to write ill about Maa Sarswati - Lata ?  How can you compare male voice with female ?<br />
The fact she left all her  Contemporary singers far behind. Success creates more enimies than friends.<br />
 Don&#8217;t foeget out of hundred if there are 5 abusers then 95 are supporters of LATA.
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Simply marvelous Venkatadri sahab, for the selection of these songs which though coming under the rare category are pure magical intonations.  the third song from the film ghazal is a very top order song and cannot be sung in 'that' attitude by any singer other than those actually singing it - rafi sahab and suman kalyanpur. i had seen the movie long long back and i remember all the other song but not this one and it is a gem of a song.  the other songs mentioned in your piece too are master strokes but the song "mujhe yeh phool na de" takes the cake. it was heavenly to hear the song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply marvelous Venkatadri sahab, for the selection of these songs which though coming under the rare category are pure magical intonations.  the third song from the film ghazal is a very top order song and cannot be sung in &#8216;that&#8217; attitude by any singer other than those actually singing it - rafi sahab and suman kalyanpur. i had seen the movie long long back and i remember all the other song but not this one and it is a gem of a song.  the other songs mentioned in your piece too are master strokes but the song &#8220;mujhe yeh phool na de&#8221; takes the cake. it was heavenly to hear the song.
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