Second Edition of the Biography of Mohammad Rafi “Meri Awaz Suno” has been published
This information is shared by Mr. Vinod Viplav.
After getting overwhelming response and appreciation, the first biography of great music legend Mohammad Rafi “Meri Awaz Suno” has come out with new look and more attractive features. The new edition of the book has more information, more pages and more photographs of Rafi Saheb.
As it was told in an earlier post in www.mohdrafi.com that the responses of the Rafi fans on the first edition of the book was unbelievable that has encouraged me to bring out the second edition of the book with additions. Being a writer and a diehard Rafi fan, I know that the appreciation which I got for the book is not due to my writing and my work, but because of the magic of the person who left us more than 27 years ago but his songs are still enthralling and delighting us. All I can only say that Mohd. Rafi is matchless and there would not be second Rafi in this universe. For Rafi fans like us, whose number may be millions, Mohammad Rafi is the one and only, source of inspiration and his songs are like Oxygen, in absence of which survival is impossible. We all Rafi fans not only want to listen his melodious voice but also want to know about each and every aspects of his life.
Meri Awaaz Suno II Book Front Cover
The first edition of the book was released in the inaugural function of Delhi Chapter of Rafi Foundation by renowned singing actress Padmashree Puspa Hans and well-known classical singer Padambhushan Shanno Kurana. The function was held at Punjabi Bhawan (New Delhi) on the eve of 27th death anniversary in which a number of personalities from the field of Music, Art and Culture and Media Participated. The book was also released by Mohd. Ali Ashraf Fatmi, Minister of State in Human Resource Development Minister in an overpacked function (Ek Sham, Rafi Ke Nam) on 31st July, 2007 in Patna - the Capital of Bihar.
List of contents of the book in PDF format
Meri Awaaz Suno II Book Back Cover
This book has been published by Sachi Prakashan. In second edition of the book, which published only some days ago, there are additional chapters, information and photographs. This book is in Hindi, but we are trying hard to publish this book in English, Urdu and other languages so that Rafi fans of different linguistic backgrounds and knowledge can also read the book about Rafi Saheb.The second edition contain 176 pages and more than 20 chapters.
The price of the book is Rs. 150/ only (including postal/courier charges). Those who want to get this book can contact me on following address.
VINOD VIPLAV
News Editor in UNIVARTA, Hindi News Service of United News of India (UNI)
Address :
21, UNI APARTMENTS
Sector – 11, VASUNDHARA, GHAZIABAD
PIN - 201012 (U.P)
TEL - 09868793203/0120-2880324
Email - rafifoundation@gmail.com, screenindia@gmail.com
January 27th, 2008 at 10:58 pm
dear Vinod Jee,
pls let me know how i can have this book. since i am in Qatar right now, pls let me know that how can i send you money order ?
i am also a diehard fan of Rafi Saab, so i not only like to hear his songs but also like to know many things about Rafi Saab.
thank you very much and Rafi Foundation and also the dedicated members for their kind efforts to bring such brilliant deeds for Rafi Saab’s memories.
thank you so so much again.
January 28th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Dear Vinodji,
Currently I am in Canberra (Australia). But I am interested to buy this book at any cost. Could you please let me know that how can I get it?
Hoping for your postive response.
Regards,
Anoop
January 28th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
I am a diehard Rafi Fan. Mr. Vinod Viplav has commendable job by writing the biography on music legend Mohammad Rafi Saheb. I think it is first of this kind.I would definetly like to read this. Can I get this book in Chennai.
January 29th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
I am an adrant fan of Mohammad Rafi from Pakistan. I am happy to see that people are still “crazy” for Mohammad Rafi. Some people are doing good work and some are doing bad work, but they all claim a great rafi fan. Who is right and who is wrong, time will definelty tell, as time has tell that there is no like Rafi.
I want to appreciate the work of Vinod Viplav and i want to read the first edition of the book also. How I can get it. I am ready to pay postal charge.
- Mohammad Firoj, Islamabad
January 29th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Why not any body take responsibilty to write a biography of Mohd. Rafi in English. A Feature Film or 3 hour documentary film should be made on Rafi. We all rafians, instead of fighting ourself, should be united and work some good work, not such cheap work of attacking another, without any reason.
- Anoop Dhir, Saharanpur, Uttar Pradesh
January 29th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
Anybody please try to write a biography on Mohammed Rafi Saheb, in English so that fans all over the world can read it.
melodiousrafi@yahoo.com
January 29th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
The book seems great! If any one or the author him self can translate this book in English or Urdu will be greatly appreciated, as it will enahnce the audience range. The Pakistani Rafi lovers like me will be very grateful for the effort.
January 30th, 2008 at 4:39 am
Janab Anoop Dhir Saheb,
Biography of Mohd. Rafi in English is available, written by Mr. saleem-ul-Haq. This book contains,biography, listing of Rafi’s filmy and non filmy songs and two CD’s of rare /unreleased songs. Saleem resides in Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh. His contact number is 40-23514979.
Die-Hard fan of Rafi Saheb.
Dr. Khaja Aliuddin,
Chicago,Il- (USA)
January 30th, 2008 at 11:31 am
dr. khaja saab:
thanks for the infor. what”s the price please….if u know…
Murthy ji from hyderabad - i need 5 copies of the book if u can
arrange for me…
thanks
binu nair.
January 30th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
I am a great fan of rafisahab and respect him. i am very happy to say that Mr. Vinodji and Mr.Binu Nairji giving us a great book of rafisahabs biography to us and it is a great privilege for me to contribute rafisahab’s photos or any article from my side. I thanks to all rafianfans, Binuji, ASMurtyji, Vinodji for the kind appreciation to me. The fact is no other rafisahab will replace and once only in a lifetime rafisahab takes birth. thanks.
shashank_72@rediffmail.com
January 30th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
the biography of rafisahab is very good and i want to read this books .
thanks
shashank_72@rediffmail.com
January 30th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
@ Dr Ali ud din sahab
the bookk publised by Salim Ul Haq sahab has a 10 page section on Rafi saab only. in case u havnt chkd yet plz do that.
I have personally met Salim bhai and blv me HE IS A COLLECTOR and not a die hard Rafi lover like us. his stats are superb but no way as knowledgeable about Rafi sahab as some mebers here
January 30th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
and I wish i cud read hindi fluently.
this book by Viplab sahab is indeed a treat, by far the best biography
January 30th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
All, couple of comments have been dropped from this thread. Members having differences and concerns kindly settle them via email, phone, letters etc. Lets not use this website to demean and demoralize the topic or its author. Any comments in contrast to this request may be held for deletion. Please consider this a modest request. Thank you all.
January 31st, 2008 at 12:24 am
Very well said Pradeepji. Let’s keep this site clean!
January 31st, 2008 at 7:55 am
Janab Binu Nair Saheb, Adab Araz hai,
You can contact Saleem-ul-Haq at this e-mail address and can get that book. Once you see this book, you will realize that how much hard work he did. Like Mr. Aseer wrote in his e-mail, that he is not only the collector of Rafi saheb’s songs, he is the collector of other singers too. He has vast knowledge of Rafi saheb’s filmy life, filmy and non filmy songs. Also he had collection of photos of Rafi saheb.
MohdsaleemulHaq@Hotmail.com
www.mohdrafibiography.com
Keep up the good work
Long live rafi Saheb,
Dr. Khaja Aliuddin
Chicago, Illinois, USA
January 31st, 2008 at 8:03 am
Janab Aseer Saheb,
Looks like you are an ardent fan of Rafi Saheb like me. I was introduced to Rafi saheb when I saw the movie ” Junglee”. The song I was impressed was, ” Ehsan Tera Hoga Mujh par”.
Please contact me on my e-mail address.
HolyfamilyDr@aol.com
With regards,
Dr. Khaja Aliuddin
January 31st, 2008 at 8:35 am
Good work Pradeep ,
This was required.This site is like a temple for us where we come closer to our rafi saab and not fight amongst ourselves.
Rafi saab will be ashamed of us if we continue to fight amongst ourselves.
January 31st, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Janab Dr. Khaja Aliuddin Sahab
You have mentioned in post no. 8 that Biography of Mohd. Rafi in English is available, written by Mr. saleem-ul-Haq. But this book is not a biography, as Mr. Aseer rightly said in his post no 12. Book by Mr. saleem-ul-Haq is merely a collection of songs of Rafi Sahab.
At presen there are many books avaible in market but all are listing of songs. One good collection of songs is written by Pritam Meghani (Ullasnagar)and Ajit Pradhanam (Mumbai). The title of this book is - Mere Geet Tumhare. One book is published by Raja Pocket Books. However both these books are in Hindi and are collection of songs, not a biography. That is why i said in my previous post that a biography of Rafi Saheb is urgently needed in English. I had an opportunity to talk to Mr. Vinod Viplav and he told me that he had contacted many govt. Publishers like National Book Trust and Publication Division regarding publication of biography of Rafi Saheb in English but it is unfortunate that no body is comming forward to take the responsibilty to write biography in English. I again say that if englsih book is published, it will have great demand. Biography of Rafi Sahab should also be published in Urdu, Punjabi and other indian languages also.
- Anoop Dhir
January 31st, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Dr. Khaja Aliuddinsahab
I also want one book with cds. plz tell how much for it.
thanks
shashank_72@rediffmail.com
January 31st, 2008 at 5:52 pm
thanks pradeepji.
January 31st, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Pradeepji
Thanks for publishing the photos whch i have collected and sent for the rafian fans a small contribution for Mohdrafi sahab and articles whch i have written. If u have any photos whch i have sent not published or not got the mail from myside. plz. let me knw. i will send once again.
thanks
January 31st, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Janab Anoop Dhir Saheb,
Thanks for the information. If God permits we will continue to talk about Rafi Saheb.
With regards,
Dr. Khaja Aliuddin
January 31st, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Janab Shashank Chickermane Ji,
You go to this website and then contact Mr. Saleem-ul-Haq. If you are in USA or Canada, please let me know.
www.mohdrafibiography.com
With regards,
Dr. Khaja Aliuddin
January 31st, 2008 at 11:56 pm
I would like to get a copy of Meri Awaz Suno if translated in English. If and when it becomes available, if we are let known, we will cherish it as a treasure as anything about Rafi Saab is precious for us.
February 1st, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Dear Shashankji, I will try to get the book by Mr. Saleemul Haq from Hyderabad and mail it to you as soon as possible. Mr. Pradeepji, thanks for doing what was most necessary under the circumstances. Mr. Vinod Viplavji, please let me know whether to send the dd for rs.150/- only or extra amount towards postal charges and the dd to be taken in your name ? please respond either here or at my email directly asmurty2@rediffmail.com thanks.
February 1st, 2008 at 5:45 pm
dr khaja ali uddin saab, pls note that salim ul haq has not written the book on mohdrafi. it is mr rajamannar who has done all the work and is an ocean of knowledege regarding rafi saab. unfortunately all the credit has been taken by mr haq. i am sorry to say this. now mr rajamannar is very sick and indisposed. he left his job from state bank of hyderabad.
February 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Ref: Post 24
Mahendar Sahab,
Sorry to hear that Mr. Rajamannar is sick. If you have any contact number of his, can you mail it at shirish22@gmail.com?
Regards
Shirish Kulkarni
February 1st, 2008 at 9:01 pm
Janab Mahender Saheb,
Thank you for the information and sorry to hear about mr Rajamannar. We pray to God for his quick recovery. Amen.
With regards,
Dr. Khaja Aliuddin
February 2nd, 2008 at 9:13 am
ok murtyji. thanks alot.
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:17 am
Pradip ji …
u have done the “right thing” little late as some rank outsiders
with new names and sinister purpose had managed to get into
this thread and write “outrages and blasphemous” things about me
and the rafi foundation which the rafi foundation strongly condemn.
the rafi foundation is an umbrella for rafi lovers of the world and
it’s born due to the love for rafi saab.
my team members and myself spend our time, money, skills to
spread the works of rafi saab as it gives us tremendous joy….
more, these unknown writers have no first hand info about our body
and it was clear when i was termed as the national president of the
foundation.
let me make it very clear that……………….
we do not have a national president as we are not a political party
to distribute posts and take advantage of it. we are on our guard
against malpractices happening in the name of rafi saab.
i am only a small time founder of the rafi foundation and we have
our team of advisers like mr.narayan from bangalore, mr.ahmed bhai
- rafi saab friend and true rafi lovers who are supporting us in
various capacities as per their capabilities and capacities.
rafi saabs friend and companion mr.vijay nafed has recently joined
our team of advisers too. I am proud to state that in a very short time
the rafi foundation has attracted sea of rafi lovers who are spreading
the “joys of rafi songs” at many places as true rafi saab soldiers and
commanders.
i hope you will be watchful about “malicious and untruth” reporting of
our organisation in the website in future.
true rafi lovers can write to me directly on any info about the rafi
foundation and i am duty bound to reply to these. our future
programmes include a singing competition and listening sessions
of rafi saab songs.
binu nair ,,, the rafi foundation…
binus2000@hotmail.com
February 2nd, 2008 at 11:09 am
Murthy jee and other Rafi Bhakts
Thank for showing interest in my book on Rafi Saheb. To get one copy of the book (Meri Awaj Suno), please send a cheque/dd in the name of VINOD VIPLAV of 150/- only. You can send Money Order also on following address You need not to send extra money for courier or postal charge.
Vinod viplav
21, UNI APARTMENTS
Sector – 11, VASUNDHARA, GHAZIABAD
PIN - 201012 (U.P)
TEL - 09868793203/0120-2880324
Email - rafifoundation@gmail.com, screenindia@gmail.com
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:17 pm
A space for Rafi Fans at 8 th World Book Fair, New Delhi
During World Book Fair, Rafi Fans also will have a space to share their memories and thoughts and can get copies of the much awaited Biography of their beloved singer Mohammad Rafi - Meri Awaz Suno.
The 18th edition of the biennial New Delhi World Book Fair, billed as the world
’s second largest such event, will open on Saturday, Feb 02, 2008. The venue of the fair will be at Pragati Maidan in Hall Nos 1 to 14. The exhibition, inaugurated by the Minister of Human Resource Development, Shri Arjun Singh will close on Feb. 10, 2008.
If you have time and opportunity to come to Book Fair Venue, don
‘t forget to visit stall/stand no.- S1/16 in the Hall No. 12 A, where you can get the copy of the Biography of Mohammad Rafi and can share your views and memories about Rafi Sahab with the author of the book and other diehard Rafi Fans. At the stall, you can get information about the activities of Rafi Foundation and Membership Form. Special discussions/talks about the life and the songs of Mohammad Rafi will also be held at the site.
For more information, please feel free to contact
Vinod Viplav - 09868793203
Email-rafifoundation@gmail.com/screenindia@gmail.com
February 3rd, 2008 at 6:11 pm
thank u binuji for ur kind appreciation to Mr.Pradeepji. I feel thanks to all the rafian fans for this. Plz. everybody try to bring out whatever photos, articles with u. After sometime i will meet Binuji, Shirishji, Murtyji. I am regular touch with this 3 personalities and will meet soon. Due to ill health i couldnt. but will make it possible.
shashank_72@rediffmail.com
February 3rd, 2008 at 6:14 pm
I request anybody have duet song of Rafisahab and Hemantkumar. Its very old song and a patriot song of 40’s - 50’s. if anybody have that song. plz. kindly send in this mail addresses: shashankchickermane72@gmail.com, shashank_72@rediffmail.com
shashank_72@rediffmail.com
February 4th, 2008 at 10:41 am
pradip ji.
further to my post no. 31, i wish to state herein that this
site with its contributors/readers and the millions of rafi lovers -
all over are doing a great service to the “memory of rafi saab”.
it’s only natural that rafi lovers say that rafi love in its various forms
and actions is “puja” for all of us.
hence……………..,
i suggest please keep a track of the addresses of writers registering
with this website with their phone numbers too as i have found two
occassions wherein two individuals have used proxy names
to write their views which otherwise they cannot state, due to reasons
best known to them.
this is a sure shot dis-honest act i feel.
the second suggestion is that harsh and intemperate language and
” personal attack “on rafi lovers be censored at your end itself as it
can avoid controversies.
one can “disagree” with another view point very “politely” too. more,
the rafi lovers are spending their time, money and intelligence to spread
the “joy” of rafi saabs songs and personality.
even if one cannot appreciate these “honourable deeds” my plea is
please do not “run down” a rafi lover. a true rafi lover is very gentle and
has a big heart like - rafi saab himself .
as few rafi lovers rightly said ” this site is a mandir ” which
nobody will dispute. we all have to keep the sanctity of this great
mandir.
rafi lovers may write to us for details of “the rafi foundation” and
” sargam ” magazine the second issue which will be issued in march .
the sargam magazine apart from pictures and articles about
our legend rafi saab is a magazine which will write about “rafi lovers
of this world”.
so do send in a write-up of yourself with your picture
and in your own words ur love for rafi saab , which we will take up
for publication.
please write to :
binu nair: binus2000@hotmail.com or call at : + 9833 250 701
the rafi foundation, mumbai….
February 5th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Dr. Khaja Aliuddin,
I am staying in Mumbai and working. basically from south indian.
thanks
February 5th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Dear Pradeep Ji,
I am thankful to you not to have published my post which was full of anger because of some people. But now I am at peace.
Since you are doing this great job of making Rafi Sahab fans meet on this site, may I request you to ask Mr. Vinod Viplav not to publicise the membership of Rafi Foundation as this foundation consists of several other members and no other member has been informed about the membership forms and any money to be collected there from. This is a sacred foundation wherein people come and join with references and contribute as per their will.
May I again request your goodself to kindly disallow these advertisements on your site ? Let the information be carried about the events happening or release of a book or a magazine in Rafi Sahab name.
I hope I am approaching you for a genuine concern.
Long Live Rafi Sahab !
Regards,
Zorawar Chhugani
Rafi Foundation (Delhi Chapter)
# 9810224991
February 6th, 2008 at 8:48 am
vinod ji:
zorawar and the rafi foundation (delhi chapter) is trying to build
a dedicated team of rafi lovers in new delhi. we are just six
months old.
my suggestion to you is : please work as a team and enrol rafi
lovers, all year round. we are all “accountable” , responsible
and dedicated rafi lovers.
remember that rafi saab was a “namazi” , a true icon appointed and
sent by the gods alone - to sing in gods own voice.
rafi saab disliked commerce and self-glory…. hence please
keep mr.zorawar posted of all events of the delhi chapter as we
are in the process of building a great team after many years.
lets all work in its true spirit which rafi saab will love and admire
is my simple plea.
binu nair ….. the rafi foundation : binus2000@hotmail.com
+9833 250 701
February 6th, 2008 at 10:46 am
binuji.
when i will get this book and how. whether u wanted the photo plz. let me know.
thank u
February 7th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Small correction in the spelling of word “Sahab”. Most of the people used to write “Rafi Saab” instead of “Rafi Sahab”. “The meaning of “Sahab” in urdu is like Mr. or Respected etc. and there is no word “Saab” in Urdu. So, kindly take note for future. Thanks.
February 7th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Mr. Binu Nair and Mr. Zorawar Chugani
(in response to post no - 36, 38 & 39)
I want to clarify that during World Book Fair, Memership Forms of Rafi Foundation and introductory information about the Foundation were kept at s1/16 in Hall No- 12A as said in my post no - 33. Only Membership Forms were given to Rafi Fans. Those who will be interested in joining Rafi Foundation, will contact only Mr. Jorawar Chugani, and not any other person.
No Membership Fee can be collected presently because neither Rafi Foundation has been Registered nither there is any Bank Account of Rafi Foundation, as per my knowledge.
I have requested to office bearers of Rafi Foundation many times that at least two primary work should be done immediatly.
1. Registration of the Delhi Chapter or other chapter of Rafi Foundation.
2. Open a bank account of Rafi Foundation.
But it is sad that no progress has been made in this direction.
Some Office bearers (including Mr. Nair and Mr. Zorawar) instead of talking directly or by Phone or by email or doing any creative work, are more interested in making baised comments and baseless allegesions against each other on the website. I am afraid that this tendency will hamper the unity and the work of Rafi Foundation.
February 7th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
ref 41: i also spell it “sahab”. but remember that really there is no correct spelling for transliterated English - Hindi. The only correct spelling is with original Hindi / Urdu characters - which unfortunately to my regret are being replaced by English. Sun-J, Sanjai, Sanjay - it doesn’t really matter. I found it amusing so I commented
February 8th, 2008 at 12:45 am
Vinod ji…
we have spoken on the phone. u had called and we had a chat.
now please do not grumble about our work as the rafi lovers
are not interested in taking “certificates” for our work. our work
give us tremendous amount of joy.
the rafi foundation is registered in mumbai. we were going “slow”
for the welcome reason that we needed honest and dedicated
people with us not self seekers and arm chair politicians or
critics.
for any thing related to the rafi foundation u may write to me
directly at binus2000@hotmail.com
binu nair… mumbai.
February 8th, 2008 at 5:25 am
@ Imtiyaz bhai, ref post 42
ues gramatically iu r correct that there is no word called saab in urdu. with my limited urdu knowledge I wud like to point that the Janab is closer in meaning to the word Mister of english than Sahab really is. And in proper noun there shouldnt be much objection.
Anyway, I again fail to understand, why people here try to dictate lover’s
actions. Love in any form in Godly and we should only and only respect love in each of its forms. In case you know, even Hazrat Musa AS(Moses, as we also know him) was scolded by Allah when he scolded a deewana of Allah as te deewana who was a cobbler by profession was offering Allah some trivial earthly matters. And Allah said, never try to dictate a lover’s devotion. I know what you(Musa) dont know. Hazrat Musa AS immediately apologized.
it really doesnt matter whether we say Rafi saab or Rafi sahab or something different(like my mother who prefers to call him Mama). The only thing matters here is our devotion which I dont think can be typed and by no means, judged
regards
February 9th, 2008 at 7:44 am
aseer ji :
pst 45 ::::
yes, true devotion may not be possible to be translated in to
the right meaning or words.
in this respect “saab” is only a translation… the point which aseer
has stated is “more” pertinent. why someone wants to dictate to
lovers.
saab is used as a respect. the world is changing fast. the
language and it’s usage is changing too and hence the oxford
dictionary issues each year the latest words and it meanings.
in journalism when one writes about people, their name is used
and saab or saheb is “never” used . a journo will say for example
manmohan singh and not manmohansingh saab .
people wanting to tell others or dictate others should do their
“homework” first it ’s felt.
the love for the greatest singer and the spreading of the immortal
voice is paramount than being advisors , i feel.
binu nair…….
February 10th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Dear Aseer Sahab,
Did you tell me how the word sahab spelled in URDU? “Swad+Alf+Ha+Ba”? Am I right? or Swad+Alf+Ba? which is correct? If you say first one with “Ha” then you must write “Sahab” and not saab. BTW, what harm if you add “h” to sound correctly? Its looking very odd “Saab”with the name of the greatest Rafi Sahab. Aseer sahab, I must say you that there is no intention to give dictation to anybody, it’s matter of correction only. Atleast you should not oppose since you have sound knowledge in urdu grammer and a diehard fan of Rafi Sahab.
February 11th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Dear Mr. Binu & Mr. Aseer
I fully agreed that true devotion may not be possible to express in WORDS, but some words can be spelled correctly in other language, e.g.:
1) You can write word ﺏﺎﺭﺸ same as urdu “Sharaab”. There is no difficulty to write and pronounce as well. If somebody write Sharb or Shaarab instead of “Sharaab”, it will not be correct.
2) You can write word ﻡﺴﺑﺗ same as urdu “Tabassum”. There is no difficulty to write and pronounce as well. If somebody write Tabsum or Tubsam instead of “Tabassum”, it will not be correct.
Some words cannot be written as per the correct pronunciation of urdu, e.g.:
1) You can’t write word غور correctly as per urdu pronunciation. If you write Ghour, it will become گھور.
2) You can’t write word گﺴﺗﺎﺧﻲ exactly as per the pronunciation in urdu. If you want to write this word in English, you may write “Gustakhi” (ﻱﻬﻛﺎﺗﺴﮜ). So, here we have some limitations and it can be accepted. But when you have no problem to spell correctly, how can you say “Chalta Hai”??????.
In this case, you are encouraging to write ﺏﺎﺼ (Saab) instead of ﺏﺣﺎﺼ (Sahab).
And I don’t know why you are not able to digest the word SAHAB. What harm???
Aseer Sahab, bajaye urdu ka meyaar giraane kay aap apna urda ka meyaar badhayeinge to faida hoga.
February 11th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Should be “Saheb”
February 11th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
In arabic language there is no letter P. hence the arabs use
the word b for p.
there are lots of jokes about this but forget it since we are not
in an english language class but on a site of a legendary singer
whom we all love as our “guruji”.
just like one takes a short cut to reach a venue some writers
may use saab for saheb……..NOTHING MORE THAN THIS.
can we not spend this time listening to rafi saab songs or
propagating it?……
BINU NAIR… MUMBAI……..
February 11th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
POST 48……..
WHAT IS URDA SIR……..
BINU NAIR.
February 12th, 2008 at 12:51 am
@ Imtiyaz bhai ref post 48 and 49
yes indeed sahab is spelled as swad alif he be. no doubt. but i dont think that is of great importance. it really matters much much less whether we call him Rafi saahab or Rafi saab or Rafi sir or even pronounce his name wrongly as Rofi, as per bengali standard. are u suggesting urdu speaking persons are more respectful by pronouncing his name correctly and his bengali followers are of second class as according to their native accent they pronounce it like Rofi? I simply dont understand.
coming to ur points in post 49,
the examples given by u is indeed favoring stance but when coming to pronounciation Urdu is the most disturbing language as while writing short vowels are skipped(which are to be guessed while reading) and long vowels are kept. tell me is it muhabbat or mohabbat? tilaaq or talaaq? U might point out one as u speak that version but i can point out persons who will most obstinately oppose ur pronunciation. But this discussion is not my motto here so i ll skip this. i dont know why u dragged this here.
about gustakhi(sorry i dont use urdu fonts) yes its not possible to type in english the deep throated kh or deep throated ga as in gham. but u understand it and I with my dimmed brain also do. so carry on.
I am very sorry if my post here gave u the impression of me encouraging saab instead of saahab. i merely posted that it really matters less, much less than some of the other issues raised here.
but yes I ll say chalta hai(altough i didnt use this phrase, Allah knows why u put it within a pair of inverted commas) as per my belief its ok.
now two points personally to u sir.
1. “sahab” as u prefer, write urself and asking others to adopt is not the word Mister or even similar. “sahab” means cloud in urdu. and altho I understand why people r using saab here I fail to understand why u call our beloved Rafi sahab as “Rafi the cloud”.!!!!! oh yes, there is a word called “saahab” in urdu which is often used to pay respect. BTW, what harm if you add “a” to sound correctly? Its looking very odd “Sahab”with the name of the greatest Rafi Saahab.
2. “Aseer Sahab”– plz dont call me cloud. I personally dont like it. in case u cant write “saahab” just forget adding anything with my name.
3.” bajaye urdu ka meyaar giraane kay aap apna urda ka meyaar badhayeinge to faida hoga.”– I think urdu itself is feminine word. so it shud be “apni urdu” and not “apna urdu”. so my earnest request to u “imtiyaz saahab, bajaye urdu ka meyaar giraane kay aap APNI urda ka meyaar badhayeinge to faida hoga.”
while writing this post i cant suppress my smile, being a bengali, born and brought up in a remote village of bengal, never learning urdu academically and yet here I am rectifying some silly mistakes committed by some rescuer of Urdu. lol sir. Here some idiotic bengali or south indian or marathi etc etc are trying to degrade urdu but plz u be an exaample and an exception plz. its my earnest request.
highest regards
Aseer
@ moderator, plz publish this one and delete my similar post.
February 12th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
sir, can i ge this book in Urdu as i am in Pakistan and can not read Hindi. please let me know if you have any Urdu or English version of the book. Peasze please please
February 13th, 2008 at 8:54 am
ref post 52 : since it’s clarified that ’saheb’ means clouds i will prefer
to use rafi ji or rafi saab …
some of the advisers who don the “role” of advisors may check
the meanings of words in the dictionaries before spilling their
intellect on others.
now , i am reminded of the song : saala mai to saab ban gaya from
dilip kumars sagina..
saab is only an innocent translation and in mumbai its used to
address the “boss”.
rafi saab is the boss and advisers please take note or else invent
a suitable, correct address to the boss : mohd rafi saab.
binu nair… rafifoundation@mail.com
February 13th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Post 52…..
There is no word “urda” in post 48.
I apologize for typo. error in post 49.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Imtiyaz ji
apology accepted
plz be careful from next time
love u
February 16th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
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February 16th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Binuji,
I feel we should have a video cds of rafisahab’s life isnt it. we have enough books/photos/cds, but have anyone have cd of rafisahab’s life. i have seen in youtube, but sometimes it dont work fast. so it is very difficult to watch in the youtube.
shashank_72@rediffmail.com
February 16th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Dear Aseer SAAHAB (OK, ab to aap khush hain?)
Baat jab urdu ki chali hai to phir mukhatibat bhi urdu mein hi honi chahiye.
Main yeh bilkul nahin soncha tha kay ek chhotay se lafz kay liye baat itni tool pakadlegi. Lagta hai aap dil par hi le liye.
1) Aap baat ko kaafi uljha rahe hain. Yahan pronounciation ki bahes nahin horahi hai, ek chhotay se lafz ko kis tarah sahi taur par doosri zubaan mein likha jasakta hai ya likhna chahiye dekha jaraha hai, naakay Bengali/Marathi accent ki baat horahi hai. Aadmi ka accent jaisa bhi ho, par likhte waqt woh bahut mohtaat rahta hai aur usi tarah nahin likhta jaisa uska accent hai. Spelling aur grammar ka mukammal lihaaz rakha jaata hai. Agar aap kisi padhay likhay Hyderabadi shaqs ki urdu ki likhai dekhenge to pata chalega kay woh kis tarah fasih urdu likhta hai, aur wahi jab baat karta hai to us se kis qadar muqtalif hoti hai. Beshak ek Bengali Rafi ko Rofi kahta ho par jab usko likhna hoga to sir RAFI hi lkhna hoga. ROFI nahin likh sakta.
2) Meri samajh mein nahin aaraha hai kay aap Rafi sahab, saahab or saheb (but not saab) kay gaanon ka maza kis tarah lete hain. Aap to urdu ko itni disturbing language samjhte hain jabke taqreeban gaane bilkul fasih urdu mein hotay hain. Strange.
3) Kya aap us sahab lafz ki spelling bata sakte hain (urdu mein) jis ka matlab cloud hota hai? Mere liye yeh naya lafz hai. Agar aap isi ﺏﺣﺎﺼ lafz kay maanay cloud kay nikalte hain kahrahe hain to please mujhe us dictionary ka naam bataiye. Main aap ka ihsaan mand rahoonga.
Waise aap jo “saahab“ likhe hain yeh ziyada close hai banisbat doosre spellings kay. (Pahle to single ‘a’ kay addition par eitraaz horaha tha aur ab double ‘aa’ ko recommend kar rahe hain, good).
4) Ab raha sawaal urdu kay gender ka:
“bajaye urdu ka meyaar giraane kay aap APNA, urda ka meyaar badhayeinge to faida hoga“. Is jumlay (sentence) mein urdu ki nahin balkay aap kay gender ki baat horahi hai aur mere khayaal se maine sahi gender likha hai.
Baherhaal Aseer Sir, mera koi intention (irada) aap ko ya kisi ko dictate karna ya apni kisi baat ko manwana bilkul nahin hai. Binu saahab kay mashware kay mutabiq hum log is baat ko bhool kar yahi waqt Rafi Saahab kay gaanon ka maza lene mein lagaatay hain aur is topic ko yahin khatam karte hain.
LONG LIVE RAFI SAAHAB
LONG LIVE RAFIANS
February 16th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
I am glad to know that Vinodji have ready this book.
As I am running a web site www.SingerMukesh.com dedicated to great singer Mukeshji…we, music lover need more work about our Indian singes.
Regards,
Pankaj Dwivedi
www.SingerMukesh.com
February 16th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
@ intiyaz bhai, i follow a principle of advising anyone thrice only. agar phir bhi samajh me na aaye to rasta apna apna ikhtiyar kar lete hain. I had most of the answers ready till i came to ur last few lines
sir, ur conclusion is what I m after . its a very good suggestion. we should enjoy irrespective of getting into saab vs sahab or saahab issue. I also am ending it here. let bygones be bygones.
Plz write ur posts in english so that non hindi\urdu speakers can also get the essence.
love u.
long live Rafi sahab
long live the unity of all rafians
February 16th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
plz read irrespective as instead in my previous post
regards
February 20th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Sir, I am a new fan of Rafi sahab. I wud like to read his biography MERI AWAZ SUNO very badly.when will I get the English version of the buk. Plz reply.
February 25th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
I LOVE ALL THE SONGS OF MOHAMMED RAFI SAHAB VERY VERY MUCH.
HE HAD AN UNIQUE STYLE OF SINGING AND THE VOICE WAS THE SWEETEST VOICE IN THE UNIVERSE.
INDIAN FILM MUSIC HAS LOST IT`S SOUL.
I THINK HE IS THE KING OF THE PITCH.AS LONG AS MUSIC IS EXISTING IN THE WORLD MOHAMMED RAFI WILL REMAIN AS AN UNMATCHED SINGER.RAFISAHAB AMAR RAHE.
February 26th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
MAIN RAFI SAHAB KA BAHUT FAN HU MERI AGE 38 YAERS HAI. JAB BHI MAIN
UDAS HOTA HUN TO RAFI KE GANE MUJHE OXIZEN DETE HAIN. RFI SAHAB EK BEST SINGER HI NAHI BALKI IK BAHUT BADE INSAN BHI THE. IK BAR RAFI SAHB SE IK NAYE MUSIC DIRECTOR KAHA KI RAFI MERA YEH PAHLA GANA KINTU MERE PASS PAISE NAHI HAI. TO RAFI NE JATE WAQT UNKO HI 51 RS. SAGUN KE TOR PAR DE DIYE .ESHE THE IK BHALE INSHAN RAFI SAHAB
February 26th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
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February 27th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Dear Binu ji, I can get the required number of copies from Mr. Saleem-ul-Haq and send them all to you, I had missed out on your request until now which I saw and had wanted to inform you. The books are available in plenty and I have met Mr. Saleem-ul-Haq personally on two occasions besides having talked to him and his nephew Mr. Mohd. Faheem-ul-Haq also several times over the phone. Please inform how many copies would you require and to which address they have to be mailed. You can also logon to www.mohdrafibiography.com which is of Mr. Saleem-ul-Haq for a detailed information on the book by him. Also, anyone else who requires may contact either directly Mr. Saleem-ul-Haq whose email ids are given on the abovewebsite or even me at asmurty2@rediffmail.com. I will be only too happy to be of service. thanks.
February 27th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
Ref your earliest post Mr. Binu Nair Ji, I can send the books required by you from Hyderabad please let me know how many books that you now require and to what address I shall mail them. You can also visit www.mohdrafibiography.com and get full particulars on the book and the free CD that Mr. Saleem-ul-Haq sahab is giving and his email address is also listed therein. I have met Mr. Saleem-ul-Haq twice in recent times and have spoken to him and his nephew Mr. Faheem-ul-Haq who helps him out, over the telephone too on many occasions. Just inform me the details at my email id and I shall get the books for you. I have recently mailed two copies for our friends in mumbai itself.
March 2nd, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Several persons had wanted similar books on Rafi sahab in urdu. I found link to one such book in an article in a blog, the link of which is as under :
http://blogs.ibibo.com/ViewComments.aspx?blogid=4a42e985-ab0b-48c7-8e26-403ef0f90669&mid=89227a7d-c31f-4a87-866b-01beea77e434#PostComment
readers interested in the book in urdu may go through the article. the book is published from new delhi. thanks. asmurty2@rediffmail.com
March 6th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
I am sending the review of the book on Mohammad Rafi- Meri Awaz Suno, published in Rajsthan Patrika, the leading newspaper of Rajsthan. ____________________________________________________________
पुस्तक समीक्षा
“मेरी आवाज सुनो´´
मोहम्मद रफी की पहली जीवनी
भारतीय संगीत, खास तौर पर फिल्म संगीत में मोहम्मद रफी के महत्व और जनमानस पर उनके गाये गीतों के दीघZकालिक असर से हर कोई वाकिफ है। मोहम्मद रफी एक ऐसी शिख्सयत हैं, जिनकी आवाज का जादू वर्षों बाद भी बरकरार है। कानफोड़ू संगीत और रीमिक्स गीतों के इस दौर में उनके गाये गीत मन को राहत एवं सुकुन पहुंचाते हैं। पाश्र्व गायन के सरताज मोहम्मद रफी का महत्व आज केवल इसलिये नहीं है कि उन्होंने हजारों की संख्या में हर तरह के गीत गाये और अपने गीतों के जरिये जिन्दगी के विभिन्न पहलुओं को अभिव्यक्ति दी बल्कि इसलिये भी है कि सामाजिक, जातीय एवं èाार्मिक संकीर्णताओं के इस दौर में वह इंसानियत, मानवीय मूल्यों, देशप्रेम, èार्मनिरपेक्षता एवं साम्प्रदायिक सद्भाव के एक मजबूत प्रतीक हैं। उनके गाये गीत नैतिक, सामाजिक एवं भावनात्मक अवमूल्यन के आज के दौर में जनमानस को इंसानी रिश्तों, नैतिकता और इंसानियत के लिये प्रेरित कर रहे हैं। रफी के गुजरने के कई साल बाद भी उनकी सुरीली आवाज़ का जादू लोगों के सिर चढ़ कर बोल रहा है। उनकी आवाज़ के प्रशंसकों और दीवानों की संख्या लाखों में है और ये केवल भारत में ही नहीं, दुनिया के हर देश में फैले हुए हैं। लेकिन विडम्बना है कि पाश्र्व गायिकी को शिखर पर पहुंचाने वाले इस सिख्शयत के जीवन एवं गीतों के बारे में जानकारियों को सामने लाने का कोई व्यवस्थित प्रयास अब तक नहीं हुआ है। रफी के जीवन और उनके नगमों के विभिन्न पहलुओं की जानकारी देने वाली किताब की कमी रही है। अब तक मोहम्मद रफी को लेकर जो पुस्तकें प्रकाशित हुयी हैं वे मूलत: रफी के गाये गये गीतों के संग्रह हैं लेकिन प्रस्ततु पुस्तक “मेरी आवाज सुनो´´ इस कमी को पूरा करती है।
वरिष्ठ पत्रकार विनोद विप्लव लिखित यह पुस्तक मोहम्मद रफी की पहली जीवनी है। मोहम्मद रफी के निधन के करीब 26 साल बाद प्रकाशित उनकी इस पहली जीवनी की लोकप्रियता का अंदाजा इस बात से लगाया जा सकता है कि इस पुस्तक के पहले संस्करण की सारी प्रतियां कुछ दिनों के भीतर समाप्त हो गयीं और इसकी भारी मांग को देखते हुये इसका दूसरा संस्करण प्रकाशित किया गया।
मोहम्मद रफी के जीवन एवं गीतों पर केिन्द्रत इस पुस्तक के दूसरे संस्करण में रफी के जीवन एवं उनके गीतों के विभिन्न पहलुओं पर विस्तार से प्रकाश डाला गया है। अनेक दुर्लभ चित्रों से सुसज्जित यह पुस्तक चार भागों में विभक्त है। पहला भाग मोहम्मद रफी के जीवन एवं उनके गायन कैरियर पर आधारित है। इसमें रफी के बचपन से लेकर फिल्मी गायन के सफर का व्यापक वर्णन है। इसके अलावा उनके गायन के विविèा आयामों तथा उनकी आवाज की जादूगरी की भी चर्चा की गयी है। इस भाग में ख्यातिप्राप्त एवं जाने -अनजाने संगीतकारों के साथ उनकी जुगलबंदी के अलावा उन सितारों का बहुरंगी ब्यौरा भी है रफी जिनकी आवाज बने। साथ ही रफी के समय के अन्य गायक-गायिकाओं के साथ उनके रिश्तों पर भी प्रकाश डाला गया है। इसके अलावा इस भाग में मौजूदा दौर की फिल्म गायिकी पर मोहम्मद रफी के प्रभावों की भी चर्चा की गयी है।
दूसरा भाग मोहम्मद रफी के व्यक्तित्व के विभिन्न पहलुओं, उनके स्वभाव एवं शौक, उनके परिवार एवं परिजनों के बारे में है। तीसरे भाग में मोहम्मद रफी के अंतिम दिनों, रफी के गुजरने के बाद उनके परिवार की स्थिति तथा देश- विदेश में बसे उनके प्रशंसकों की दीवानगी के बारे में जानकारियां हैं। चौथे भाग में नौशाद, लता मंगेशकर, दिलीप कुमार, शम्मी कपूर, तलत महमूद, शंकर-जयकिशन, लक्ष्मीकांत-प्यारेलाल, मन्ना डे आदि हस्तियों के संस्मरणों को शामिल किया गया है।
यह पुस्तक मोहम्मद रफी के प्रशंसकों के लिये ही नहीं बल्कि हिन्दी फिल्मी गीतों की व्यापक जानकारी रखने की इच्छा रखने वालों के लिये भी यह जरूरी किताब है। यह पुस्तक मोहम्मद रफी के साथ-साथ उनके समकालीन फिल्मी हस्तियों तथा भारतीय सिनेमा संगीत के अतीत एवं वर्तमान को जानने-समझने के लिये भी उपयोगी है।
August 1st, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Mohammed Rafi is not a neme of a person but the name of all music lovers of Rafi no one can fill the place of Rafi
August 1st, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Mohammed Rafi is not a name of a person but the name of all the music lovers He is still alive in our hearts somany tryes to become Mohammed Rafi but all in vainthanks