Comments on: Mann Re Tu Kaahe Na Dheer Dhare

By: Anmol Singh

Anmol Singh — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 10:15:59 +0000

People who are ignorant of Rafi Sahab’s achievements are capable enough to distort historical facts. We need to be vigilent on this.

By: Siva

Siva — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:01:53 +0000

Dear Mr Binu Nair
Refer post 29-I fully agree with you-not only the TV media, even the print media is still biased. I reside in Pune and found that there was not a single mention about Rafi on 31st July or after that, whereas KK’s birth anniversary was covered on three days in popular English newspapers. This shows a very clear bias and that is the reason why we Rafi fans sometimes get upset with such bias. Of course it is another matter that Rafi sahab himself never bothered about such publicity and hence we also should learn to ignore these.

Our old faithful Vividh Bharati did full justice on 31st July with beautiful songs of Rafi sahab throughout the day-special thanks to them.

By: Anwar-ul-Haque

Anwar-ul-Haque — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:45:40 +0000

All Respected Rafi Lovers,

Mr. Binu Nair has rightly said in his post 29 about “biased TV channels”. I did not see any program on any major Indian channel about Rafi Sahab on his anniversary and not heard about any one too. How strange is that the most successful and loveable singer is totally ignored by them? If they think that Lata or Kishore are the best singers of Indian movies – OK; they have the right to think so. But they admit anyway that Rafi Sahab remained the king uptill 1970, so why they are ignoring the singer who was (according to their views) undoubtedly the best singer till 1970. This shows that the media is really biased and projected other singers as compared to the true and only legend of all times: Rafi Sahab.

However, a big surprise (to me as well) is that a Pakistani TV channel “Geo” telecasted a beautiful documentary on our beloved singer on his death anniversary. It was a very nice, informative and well picturised documentary. I was unable to see that documentary, as I was on my job; but thankfully to the Geo team that they placed that program on youtube. It is in three parts and a must see for all Rafi Lovers. Following are the addresses of these parts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht0SLPDkmVw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obRCVebqKBI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQJ-NoF6fjg

Please see and enjoy.

Geo Rafi Sahab!!!
Geo “Geo” Channel!!!

Thanks and best regards.

Anwar-ul-Haque
anwarhq25@yahoo.com

By: binu nair

binu nair — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:31:24 +0000

Jawaid saaheb and Imtiaz bhai & All our Rafi Lovers :

let me greet all of you and say that we are lucky to have lived in these times when we can truly cherish and enjoy mohd rafi saaheb’s songs.

it’s really bliss and let’s all take forward the magic – to the next generation of music lovers.

there were hundreds of programmes and events by rafi lovers in all parts of the world. in kerala’s calicut city there were four music events in homage to rafi saaheb.
rice, sugar and sweets were distributed to the poor by rafi lovers in vapi, gujrat, in kerala and other places.
in mumbai city about twenty programmes were held and mohd rafi remembered.
most notable point was that youngsters and children sang rafi songs.

in short, people listen rafi saaheb from the hearts in large numbers. they do not have to depend on the “biased” tv channels .

binu nair. rafi foundation, mumbai

By: Ahmed Khan

Ahmed Khan — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:15:44 +0000

Ref. post 26
Janab Jawaid Naseem Sahab,
Sir, aap kay jazbaat aur ihsasaat ko salute karta hoon aur aap kay mashwaray ki poori taeed karta hoon. Jaisa kay Khaja Aliuddin sahab apne “tawaaf” kay dauraan apni duwaoon mein Rafi sahab ko shamil rakhe, kuch isi tarah hum se jo bhi hosakta hai hum sab ko zaroor karna chahiye. Kuch aur nahin to kam az kam quran padhkar hi baqsh sakte hain. Is qism kay saaray amal khaalis rafi sahab kay liye hoga. Unko yeh saare amal hamari taraf se ek tohfe kay taur par wasool hongay. Aur yeh nahin kay yeh amal sirf isi din karna chahiye, balke hamesha, jab bhi hosake karte rahna chahiye. Hum unkay gaanon ka lutf sirf isi din thodi letay hain. Humto har din unkay gaanon se mahzooz horahe hain na. To phir hamari taraf se bhi unko kuch dena chahiye na. Binu sir, Narain sir, anmol singh sir, mohan flora sir ,biman barua sir aur Savitaji apni field mein humse bahut ziyada kar rahe hain. Allah in tamaam logon ko khoob energy aur sahet dey taakay isi tarah rafi sahab kay naam ki khushboo phailaate rahein, aaaammmeeeeeeeeeen.
Imtiyaz A. Sharif

By: malik reyaz

malik reyaz — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:22:59 +0000

I Pray to ALMIGHTY ALLAH that soul of Rafi sb. may rest in heaven, may ALMIGHTY ALLAH shower his blessings over his noble soul— AAMEEN

By: JAWAID NASEEM

JAWAID NASEEM — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 09:58:58 +0000

rafians
criticise to nahi kar raha per ek afsos ka izhaar kar raha hoon ke yuun to saare saal bhar hum log rafi saheb pe write ups likhte aur apne jazbaat ka izhaar karte rehte hain lekin jab woh manhoos din aaya jis din hamaray laadle rafi saheb hamen chhod gaye to usdin ka maatem ab shayad logon ne manana chhod diya hai.
kya hamara farz nahi ke usdin khaas taur se hum unhe yaad karen, unke eesaal-e-sawab ke liye quraan khaani karen, fakiron ko unke naam se khaana khilayen aur phir hum sab isi platform pe jama hoker aapas mein ek doosre ke gham ko apne alfaaz mein baanten????
muhabbat hai to uska izhaar bhi zaroori hai
main khaas taur se binu nair ji, narayan ji, savita ji,anmol singh, mohan flora,biman barua se guzaarish karoonga ke is gham ko khaas andaaz mein unka zikr karke aapas mein baantein aur unse apni muhabbat aur aqeedat ka izhaar karen.

jawaid naseem
09836540639

By: antarjaal

antarjaal — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 01:12:03 +0000

Savita (and Anmol),

Let’s agree to disagree. I dont claim to be a deep thinker or a philosopher so I am probably being a little simplistic (but then again I feel keeping life simple is one of the secrets to happiness). After reading your response, I feel I need to read the Gita more carefully . It is obvious to me you are a deep thinker and I enjoyed reading your response (though I didnt get it all due to my limitations).

I agree the beauty of poetry is that one can apply their own interpretation. I was just pointing out that there wasn’t any “praise the almighty or higher being” in any part of the song. I feel the song is reassuring us to appreciate that the good is within and emphasizing how one needs control their expectations and emotions.

But I am mere simple minded mortal….what do I know . Thought provoking article and discussion for sure !

By: JAWAID NASEEM

JAWAID NASEEM — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:01:59 +0000

shamma-e-rafi ke parwano!
aaj ek baar phir wohi maqaam aaya hai jisse guzarna hamaray dilon pe khanjar chalne se kam nahi, wohi manhoos 31 july,wohi din jis ne hum se hamare sooraj ko chheen liya aur music ki duniya mein taareeki phailadi. sach kahoon to ab mausiqui ki duniya mein sewa andheron ke aur kuchh bhi nahi aise mein kuchh hai to is andheron ke parde ko chheerti hui wohi noorani aawaz hai jo aaj bhi apne naghmon ke zaria hamare dilon ke andhere door kar rahi hai. kaash aisa ho paata ke allah hum jaise chund logon ki zindagi ke aiyyaam bhi rafi saheb ki zindagi mein jod deta,to aaj hum uss farishte uss aawaz ke khuda se mahroom to na hotay. naghmon ka safar to aaj bhi jaari hai, lekin woh raah-numa ab kahan??

kahan se laaoon woh woh lazzat gayi baharon kiâ€¦
tumharay saath gayi roshni chiraghon ki,

aayen hum sab uss paak rooh ki taskeen ke liye milkar dua karen kyun ke ab hamare haathon mein sewa dua karne ke aur kuchh bhi nahi jo us shakhs ko nazar kar saken.

tere geeton mein baaqi ab talak woh soz hai lekin

woh pehle phool barsaate thay,ab daman bhigote hain

mohd.rafiâ€¦..

hum tujhe yuuun bhula na payengay
jab kabhi bhi sunengay geet tere
sang sang hum bhi gungunaengay

jawaid naseem
09836540639

By: Savita Garcia

Savita Garcia — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:09:44 +0000

(in favour of writer to Antar Jal,ji),,,,,knowing our limitations,I agree with u some extent that we ought be literal to what is said,,,,,everything added further would be an interpretation,,,,very few only understand what Sahir ji would have meant,exactly,,,n so whatever even u say that what sahir would not have meant is also an interpretation by ur side too,,
as a poem,so philosophical like man re has so many meanings beyond literal statements,,,,Its like” o my Mind know contentment as ur abode,hence its called to have dheer, know the uncertainity of this world like shadow,,,don`t try to catch such mundane things,as everything is distined to go in nothingness”"!!!!,,Mr Jal what else is Indian darshans are other than these words,these words r given in every paragraph of Bhagwata Gita to veda,upanishad or parsi or sufi songs,,there r many similar Bhajans implied to mann,n some of them sung by Rafi sahab as well,,,,,,,,,,even yet if u don`t agree with Idea of God in this song,,,,what else do we mean when we say ,,just remove the darkness,,,,,removing the darkness simply mean bringing the light even if the word light is used or not,,and last stanza,,,Janam maran ka sang hai sapna,,,ye sapna bisra de,,,,,,here it simply states about something beyond life death,hence,,when we say about quiting uncertainity,,idea of certainty comes not indirectly as writer stated for rational readers,,but rather directly as both r same,,,,and I don`t know about other part of Globe,,,but in India Idea of God on the other side of idolatory is just something thats certain,,or forever,,,,,even in Islam,,mohammad paegambar Saab`s given 100 names of god,,,,has many meaning that directly applies to all the virtues of world stated for god without taking names of demigods,,so god is also the qualities not only image,,,,,n this song deal with quality,,so,,if mann will leave everything what would it rest upon then?????,I can`t understand if poet like shair Ludhyianwi ji is asking mann to rest on nothingness,,,,,its surly implying on Idea of God,,,,,that for every one has its special meaning,,may be God is Mind for some,,heart for others,,Intellect for one,,love for other,,but Idea of God is directly present everywhere in the song,,,and prove is rafi sahab`s divotional approch with a divine voice in the song,,,,,,,,Rafi sahab voice is having Shelter on God in this song I can say it because I`ve heard other sahir -rafi(saab) songs,,in which Rafi sahab sing being atheist or non biliever,,,the song Is,,,,Jinhe naaz hai hind pe kahan hai,,,,ye duniya agar mil bhi jaye n later jala do,,,,,,,n also songs like ji kadta is dunyia no main hans kad thokad,,n also,,,haye re duniya,,n,,,etc,,,,but in this song mann re rafi sahab voice is imbibed in bhakti but for rational thinker I would use the word purity of supreme faith,,,,,,

P.s…I never meant to state u wrong Mr Anatarjal ji,,,,I rather respect u for ur intelligent approch of looking at things,,I just presented my side of understanding thats really negligible in compare to u n others ,,sory n..thank you!