the singing star who is supporting the campaign against the iprs is sudesh bhonsle and not hemant bhosle.

two big organisers, kaushik kothari and hemanta kumar mahale – ‘do not’ pay any iprs fees in mumbai. Post : 38 and 40.

one can talk to them and know full details about iprs collecting money from music organisers wrongly – they say.

there is a big group in mumbai who are victimised by the iprs unjustly. mr.kaushik kothari is the leader of this group and we support him.

we are about hundred of us and among the supporters, there are leading musicians, singers and organisers,

have u heard of a personality called – Hemant Bhosle. well, he is a big supporter and he hails from pune.

lyricist shailendras songs are played all over on radios. iprs gets big revenues from them.

do you know shailendra’s son? Babloo shailendra.

he has been complaining that iprs pay peanuts to the artistes after collecting from various sources.

dear sir, iprs must collect revenues. but – according to the law. let the courts decide whether iprs can collect revenues from music organisers.

for your info, the rang manch a state govt body has directed all theatres Not to insist on the IPrs payment from organisers in mumbai.

parliament has passed a law for royalties and now the judges will interpret the law.

the day will come when all the amounts collected by iprs will have to be given back to the music organisers since use of original works – records and tapes – only when used commercially – shall attract iprs payments.

i hope the point is clear to you.

Notwithstanding the arguments for and against iprs, the idea to pay the ‘original’ creators some remuneration for using it in a ticket-oriented performance is not bad at all. meshing it up in the garb that ‘original’ recordings were not used is a simply enmeshing it further in legalities. The intent being to circumvent the law in a manner that some other law point of law comes to rescue – leading to benefit of doubt, subjective interpretations and what not. As a creator, would you not like to have a patent on its usage in any form or style?

Mr Correa does have a point, though. I think his opposition to iprs is with respect to the dispensation of the ‘spoils’ so collected in the name of iprs. The problem is that of distribution and not collection. Sir, as long as these mechanisms are controlled by the state, we can only be mere watchdogs and not the disbursing authorities. The idea is good, the implementation – atrocious.

The matter being sub-judice does not prevent us from carrying out a healthy, impersonal debate. There are two aggrieved parties here who have gone to court. Relief in the form of judgement favouring one party would only be at the cost of grief to the other. maybe the matter would be escalated to a higher and then the highest court. Kothari Saahab will have to wait interminably!

We have seen rafi saahab suffer on these ‘royalty’ issues. Why should those who adore him also suffer the same fate? Having a definitive view point on any issue, Correa Saahab, does not give a blanket permit not to hear the other viewpoint at all.

Padmanabhan NR
Rafi foundation, Hyderabad Chapter.

Rajiv Singbal
9890018720
Miramar.
Goa

Interesting to see how between a couple of mails you have concluded that
i am a spokesperson of money swindling iprs & a vulnerable organiser under threat from iprs at the same time.

But first things first, pray tell me who is this ‘we’ you have made reference to.

Again it’s not fair to comment on Mr. Kothari’s view points as the same is
subjudice. Let the wise men in the Hon’ble court decide if Mr. kothari’s stand point has merit in it, and if there is, how much or how little…

Regards,
Nagesh

the royalty has to be paid. no two ways of that. it has to be paid.

please understand the law first.

who should pay it??

according to kaushik kothari who is an organiser and and advocate, spoken words does’nt constitute any copyright infringement.

iprs has to be paid ‘only’ when you use ‘original’ recorded material .
in a music programme no recorded material is used hence ‘no’ royalty is to be paid.

in pune the organisers have come together and opposed the iprs unitedly. they dont go there any more.

iprs approaches the ‘vulnerable organisers’ on the eve of a music programme scaring them. Poor organisers have to pay up and one of them is you – its gathered.

please wait for the court verdict before jumping to conclusions as to the collection of royalties by iprs is legal or illegal.

The premise on which I mentioned IPRS is to drive home a point that the concerts do directly & indirectly help the music makers earn a dignified living.
the liability of payment to IPRS comes for commercial, ticketed shows, so
the beggar or the bathroom singer isn’t liable to pay, unless it’s a ticketed event in which case, the bathroom has to be pretty sizable (Just a light hearted note).

As regards Mr. Kothari’s case, the matter is subjudice, hence can’t comment.

Mr. Andrea Correa, if IPRS is swindling money, pls prove it or file a case.
I am sure you must be having evidence that they are swindling money and you’d do public a great favour by exposing them.

The primary requirement of law abiding citizenry is to respect the rules of the land. (iprs is registered under sub-section (3) of Section 33 of Copyright act 1957). To draw an analogy, one shouldn’t be paying a single rupee tax in our country because there is swindling of money everywhere. Have you stopped paying income tax as there is concrete evidence that tax payer’s money is being looted through various scams?

iprs has been endorsed by the likes of naushad sab(iprs director 87-2004)
and its guiding principles are pro creative talent. whether it’s administered properly or not is altogether a different question.

btw, When you say ‘we feel so now’ pray let me know who are this ‘we’??? Now, I hope you aren’t playing spokesperson to anyone…

Regards,
Nagesh

how does iprs come in here dear friend….

mr kaushik kothari a orgniser and mohd rafi lover has taken the iprs to court for collecting monies from music organisers.

in pune they dare not go and collect monies for your info.
the law states that verbal or spoken actions does’nt attract any fees but iprs have been colecting fees.

does a beggar who sing in the train liable to pay iprs. no.

even if u sing you are not liable to pay iprs my friend.

many members have complained about non-payment of royalties to mr kaushik bhai. you may check up with him. he is the founder of ‘sirf rafi’ in mumbai.

also there are cases of swindling money in iprs. are you ‘trying’ to be a spokesperson for the iprs? we feel so now.

pls have some patience until the courts give their verdict on collection of fees from organisers by iprs.